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12z/10:30am Model SCORECARD (new run just in)

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Ok so I'm confined to the wifi GO-GO here at 32,000 feet en route to Phoenix for the next 4-5 hours so i'll keep updating as long as the mac book does not run out of power. I'm going from 18 to 81 today so the sweat shirt goes to tee shirt in a few hours as near record temps invade the desert southwest all week. 

 

Ok so this riun should give us a few clues to where we are going with the storm come this Friday. You may ask what storm we'll here goes.

 

WHAT: WINTER STORM (some ice/sleet possible DC to Dover South)

WHEN: 9-11 am Philly Metro-SNJ-DE-Central NJ-Lehigh Valley

WHEN: 12 noon-2pm North Jersey-NYC-LI-Poconos-Lower Hudson

WHEN: 7-9am Washington DC-Baltimore-Richmond Area

HOW MUCH SNOW: a general 4-8" right now...subjecty to change

SNOW TYPE: powder...fluffy start temps 14-19 degrees Friday AM

 

 

MODEL UPDATE TIMES TODAY... (all eastern time)

 

 

 

NAM 12z/7am about JUST IN 

 

GFS 12z/7am about 10:30am

 

Canadian 12z/7am about 12 noon

 

Euro 12z/7am about 1:30pm 

 

CLICK HERE FOR MIKE DEFINO MODEL UPDATE & SPIN ON STORM

 

 

CLICK HERE FOR ROB GUARINO MODEL RUN FROM LAST NIGHT

 

 

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The NAM is coming in now with the cold and snow. It slows down the storm a bit and is only through 7pm Friday. So here is the raw data info just in...

 

Philadelphia .34" x 13:1 ratio = 4" of snow on ground by 7pm

Wilmington .38" x 13:1 ratio = 4.5" of snow on the ground by 7pm

Dover/Baltimore .57" x 12:1 = 6.5" of snow on the ground by 7pm 

Washington .48" x 12:1 ratio= 5" of snow on the ground by 7pm

Richmond .33" x 10:1 ratio = 3.5" of snow on the ground by 7pm

 

Allentown .23" x 14:1 ratio = 3.0" of snow on the ground by 7pm

Reading .27" x 13:1 ratio = 3.0" of snow on the ground by 7pm

Lancaster .31" x 13:1 ratio = 3.5" of snow on the ground by 7pm

 

Millville NJ .50" x 12:1 ratio = 5.5" of snow on the gorund by 7pm

Atlantic City .48" x 12:1 ratio = 5.0" of snow on the ground by 7pm

Trenton .26" x 13:1  ratio = 3" of snow on the ground by 7pm

Newark NJ .20" x 14:1 ratio = 2.5" of snow on the gorund by 7pm

NYC Metro .19" x 14:1 ratio = 2.5" of snow on the ground by 7pm

 

Poconos .20" x 15:1 ratio = 3.0" of snow on the grounf by 7pm

Scranton .21" x 15:1 ratio = 3.0" of snow on the ground by 7pm

 

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The GFS has been on and off with this storm so we have to watch to see what may be going on here or is this the model that continues to go against the other models?

 

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The UKMET has a nice snow situation come Friday..that LOW is a bit inland vs. the other tracks so we'll see how the adjusting goes the next 48 hours. 

 

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The CMC Canadian has a storm track with snow but nudged a smidge south on this run. The main idea is that the storm is there and it's gonna tweak on run to run north and south. The models overall are in pretty good agreement on the track.

 

The timing is a bit off with the GFS but many more model runs to go and we'll see tomorrow how the low in the Mid Mississippi Valley shows up vs. the other one in the upper plains.

 

MY THINKING AT THIS POINT...

 

The EURO is the only model not updated so we'll get a full scorecard in a few hours. My thinking is snow from DC to NYC but how much will fall kinda sits in the 3-5" vs. 4-8" right now.

 

 

I see no real change on this model run just a few nudges north/south. The timing is a little slower more like after 10am before 1pm in the Delaware/Lehigh Valleys...8-11am in Baltimore and DC and in the afternoon in North Jersey and NYC.

 

 

 

 

 

Blog started by rob guarino , on 116 days ago
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Marcus wild
Well 3 runs of the gfs...and now the euro and the GGEM trending south..it's most likely only a matter of time until the GGEM goes dry and flat with the gfs and euro. I'm holding steady for 4-8" still.... But at this time it's not looking very likely anymore.

00z tonight has the best sampling so far and 12z tomorrow even better. After that its pretty much game over for anymore trends most likely.
116 days ago
 
Tyler
scoopy your right, why are people freaking out? Tomorrow afternoon the models will look completley different,then again on thursday afternoon! lol
116 days ago
 
Chris Long
Some of you guys have preached not to take the models to the bank, it's only tuesday and we're still 3 days away from the REAL storm. Now since everyone has seen the Euro, some of you who preached patience are ready to jump off a bridge.. With that said, do we take this with a grain of salt, or is this the beginning of the end of this storm's potential?
116 days ago
 
OAKLAND2323
trust the OAK!!!
116 days ago
 
OAKLAND2323
Why is everyone surprised?? Our "trends" this winter have been south south south on every storm for us. That's why I wasn't a fan of these models the last few days.
116 days ago
 
scoopy
can't throw the towel in on tuesday afternoon for a friday storm...lol
116 days ago
 
Marcus wild
Lol these models are just total piles of crap. Yet again.
116 days ago
 
Joe lasala
Well that pretty much sums it up SE trend very light snow event I can't believe how the models changed in 12 hrs another disappointment
116 days ago
 
SgtSnow
2-4" in SNJ means I might be on that darn bridge.
116 days ago
 
Tyler
I dont know about that, give it 24 hours i think the euro will come back strong.
116 days ago
 
scoopy
I'll take 2-4 but i was getting greedy for more....Euro ):
116 days ago
 
OAKLAND2323
Marcus, I hear ya....its a crap shoot right now. I just have a feeling about the pattern we are in and the storms have gone south or have been suppressed. That is my worry. If neither happen....love the 5-8 inches for all..

116 days ago
 
Paul Ferguson
Where is MB when you need him.....suppression = depression....lol
116 days ago
 
Jonathan Wenner
2-4" in South Jersey
116 days ago
 
Brian
It's flat! The Euro that is. I think this is going to be some light snow at best and suppressed. Still could change but this cold is intense and doing a number on the storm.

We still have February!

Tea Anyone?? Lets Party!!
116 days ago
 
Jonathan Wenner
DO NOT look at the EURO. lol
116 days ago
 
Brian
Shoot me a private message if it changes. I can get the plow on Thursday night if need be! lol

Tea Anyone?? Lets Party!!
116 days ago
 
Marcus wild
Dunno about that so much oak... But well see. I think you should include Philly in that... NYC is on the edge.. Boston may be done altogether.. But I think Philly/Balt are the winners here.
116 days ago
 
OAKLAND2323
However if the track comes in more north then we are all in for a 5-8 inch swath of VERY fluffy snow. looking like a 15 to 20: 1 snowfall with how cold the temps are going to be.
116 days ago
 
Brian
OK I'm leaving the plow off. Thanks for the update Oak. I have faith in your forecast.

More business calls on the way as spring approaches!!

Tea Anyone?? Lets Party!!!
116 days ago
 


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