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Big Shift Dec 19th Storm

As expected the European model has shifted east in a big way! Is it right? No but it is showing it is confused and coming around to the GFS and this makes sense because of the pattern we are going in as discussed HERE

 

 

EUROPEAN

 

 

Not going to go too much into the OP Euro because it develops a phantom storm that is not showing up on ensembles or the GFS right after the 17th. It takes some lead southern stream s/w energy and forms another low right in between our 17th storm and main storm for the 19th.

Screen shot 2012-12-11 at 3.43.35 PM

 

 

Number two does not exist on any other guidance and would greatly diminish moisture return from the GOM on our storm number 1 but the EURO does not show that either.  It develops a big storm from number 1 also but takes it to the south.  Big difference from the Ohio valley track in previous runs. This model is confused!!  

 

 

Euro Ensembles 

 

 

West of the OP but well east of previous Euro ensembles from 00z.  They take the low to the Ohio Valley but redevelop it off Delmarva.  Still too warm verbatim for the coast and major cities, but the trend is our friend.  This is still different from the GFS idea of a miller A system but the trend is our friend again here!

 

Screen shot 2012-12-11 at 3.36.53 PM

 

Our main low is over KY/IL/TN/MO and notice the isobars kinking towards the coast a lot earlier!  Last run of the euro ensembles showed a secondary developing off Northern New England this run has shifted to Delmarva. Our storm on the 17th is departing, but the model puts more emphasis on this storm and prevents our main system from cutting north and west.  It forces a secondary to develop sooner.  It acts as our 50/50!

 

Screen shot 2012-12-11 at 3.29.14 PM

 

Below I drew the occlusion from previous frame but the low does not develop until this hour 192.  Notice the significant shift of the 540 line.  As this storm rides northward it produces a big winter storm for the Northeast and New England.  Too warm for Major cities and coast with the exception of NYC - BOS as a rain to significant snow seems possible given track.  

 

GFS

 

Screen shot 2012-12-11 at 3.59.25 PM

Screen shot 2012-12-11 at 4.01.19 PM

 

Verbatim this pushes offshore but not before delivering a big snow event to portions of the Northern Middle Atlantic.

 

Conclusion:

 

-Winter Storm Threat increasing for portions of the Northern Middle Atlantic into Northeast.  

 

- Interior locations have best shot as of now

 

- Rain or Snow this storm sets us up for the potential for another one behind it which might produce a White Christmas for many!

Blog started by Mike DeFino , on 165 days ago
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Marcus wild
Gfs is showing signs of a storm around Christmas as well. Awesome and it's gonna be cold already.
165 days ago
 
Connor
Could this storm bring some snow north of Pittsburgh, PA?!
165 days ago
 
Chick DeVuono
Doylestown Pa looking like a big storm like we had two -three years ago the week before Christmas??
165 days ago
 
Jane
Does this mean there is a chance that Harrisburg PA could finally see some white stuff flying around?!! I'm so sick of all this rain! We need snow!!! :)
165 days ago
 
snowtrain
Actually dgex is a snowstorm. But its the dgex.
http://forums.accuweather.com/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=17903

You can see the dgex snow fall map for hr192 there.

At the least we have a threat track.
165 days ago
 
Mike DeFino
Upstate NY is looking good so far for a good snow event. But lake effect will get going very shortly!

Marcus- DGEX is a big rain storm with a good track haha. Don't get your hopes up yet! We still have potential with this one.
165 days ago
 
Snow
How's this looking for parts of upstate ny?
165 days ago
 
Marcus wild
Double barrel low!
165 days ago
 
Marcus wild
Hey mike how about an image of the dgex?
Haha.

Monster snowstorm on dgex for Philly 0.o.
165 days ago
 
Mary
So as of now, it is expected to be a rain event?
165 days ago
 
SgtSnow
I'll take rain from the first one in exchange for 4 inches of snow right before Christmas from the second storm. I'll make that deal any and every day
165 days ago
 
Marcus wild
Nice blog. Rain for jersey again most likely lol. Good shot at a nice coastal though. Ill keep an ear out until sunday or so when Ill get interested.
165 days ago
 
Victor C
Thanks Mike! A white Christmas would be nice.
165 days ago
 


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