The Winter Buzz ! (Factors, Winter 101)
Go to group page

2:50AM Model Update (Late Nov Storm)

CMC

 

The canadian model has backed off the Chicago snow storm idea and has now shifted east and is not far from showing a significant snow storm for the Northern Middle Atlantic and the Northeast.  

 

Screen shot 2012-11-23 at 1.26.19 AM

 

The Canadian model misplaces the low earlier on at 114hrs and positions it too far north.  The upper level pattern would suggest a placement of the low pressure system in the yellow shading.  This would lead to a further south track and more cold air and more snow!

 

Screen shot 2012-11-23 at 1.21.21 AM

 

 

GFS

 


The GFS is still all over the place with the latest run pumping up the ridge again slighlty from previous 12z run.  As a result the low track shifts south and does provide some snow for the Northeast but mainly in NY and New England.  

 

Screen shot 2012-11-23 at 1.45.50 AM

Screen shot 2012-11-23 at 1.46.07 AM

 

GFS ENSEMBLES

 

Below are the ensembles from the GFS showing strong disagreement.  Tracks range from well inland to the coast to south and out to sea.  Few show nice snow event making it to the major cities.

 

Screen shot 2012-11-23 at 2.39.41 AM

 

 

EUROPEAN

 

Screen shot 2012-11-23 at 1.56.18 AM

To top off the 00z suite of models we have another weird solution from the European.  This model has not been its usual self with this system as it is bouncing all around.  Now it is shearing out the system and not developing a low to late in the period with a low offshore. Result is no precip!

 

Conclusion:

 

-Waiting for the Ensembles to see where we stand (sometime around noon I will post on Euro ensembles)

 

- CMC has best looking upper level set up compared to actual tropical forcing/pattern.

 

- GFS is flip flopping with the Euro.  GFS is slowly coming back into the game with latest run, but still needs to make adjustments to upper level pattern over Canada.  

 

- Rain to snow is possible in the N Middle Atlantic and Northeast on two of the models above, but Euro shows nothing!  Hope is still alive for a bigger wintry solution!

 

BLOG IN MOTION

Blog started by Mike DeFino , on 177 days ago
You need to be a member of this group before you can participate in this discussion
Marcus wild
Cynthia is obviously a troll.
177 days ago
 
CYNTHIA L CLARK
Hi Mike:

Do you know yet if syracuse would get a snowstorm? If so when?
177 days ago
 
Marcus wild
12z cmc is pretty close to a snowstorm for the cities by about 50 miles or so.
At this point though its most likely going to be rain for everyone 95 south and east. Unless we can get the storm further east like the last snowstorm then that would benefit us this time!

Lol either way still 20-24 model runs to go this is gonna change immensely.
177 days ago
 
Kevin Reilly
12z gfs shows a weak system mainly rain but to snow at the end so we shall see.

I give this until Sunday night with the Models here then we shall see where we stand.

I think the models are waiting to see how this next airmass coming in sets up before committing to an actual storm track and intenstiy.
177 days ago
 
Marcus wild
Did you feel the earthquake in voorhees mike? It literally hit like right below my bosses house in clementon lol.
177 days ago
 
Mike DeFino
You got the right idea Marcus....Canadian shows that trend we need. And it makes sense.

weatherman- I believe it, it was freezing in Voorhees around 1am when I was outside with some nice radiational fog.
177 days ago
 
weatherman71
On an unrelated note, I was just outside at 3:15 AM in Blackwood, NJ, and there is a solid glaze of ice on my car, enough that would require an ice scraper if I were to go driving.
177 days ago
 
Marcus wild
On the other hand.. Pretty decent warm up coming around dec 1st on the 00z gfs...
177 days ago
 
Marcus wild
This one lookin more like rain at this point. Strange how we get this warm surge of air right before the storm hits. So reminiscent of last year lol. Need this trough to dig more into the south/southeast states if we wanna get some snow around Philly from this... Well see though.. Nice blog mike love the updates.
177 days ago
 


weatherrush


masterthemets
Tuccson Computer Consulting
Tuccson Computer Consulting

Users Login

This is the Log-in area, Please go to the BLOGS for registration.